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AAC: dispelling the myth

Mon Apr 2, 2007 8:50 PM EDT
technology, music, apple, audio, emi, online-music, aac, audio-formats
By Faruk Ates
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Apple and EMI announced that starting in May, the entire EMI catalog would become available in two versions on Apple's iTunes Store: the existing $0.99, 128kbps DRM-encased version and a new, 256kbps version with no DRM applied for $1.29.

The announcement mentioned that the higher quality, premium songs will be sold in the AAC format. It all sparked up a Web-wide debate in which many things are discussed, but few correct facts are presented.

After reading through the comments on Newsvine, Engadget and private mailing lists I'm in, I've noticed one thing in particular: there's a lot of misconception about AAC. So much so, it seems, that even one of the most prominent Newsviners, Brian Ford, known largely for his well-researched arguments, misses the mark on an AAC-related statement. Update: I'm not saying Brian doesn't know AAC, because he does. He just made an oopsy and I wanted to tease him by pointing it out.

So, what started out as a mere comment on the big EMI/Apple announcement thread became such a comprehensive comment that I felt it deserved a post of its own. Please forgive me for taking on a lecturing tone for a while here and present some clarity on AAC.

Claim:

AAC is still a proprietary format, so the non-iPod using part of the world doesn't actually benefit from this move by EMI and Apple

Wrong. AAC is a more open format than MP3 because it doesn't require you to pay royalties for content distribution, only for codec creation (in other words, if you sell MP3 music you have to pay a royalty for each song, but you don't have to pay anything if you sell AAC music)

Claim:

AAC is Apple's private codec

Wrong. AAC was made by various companies, most notably Sony, AT&T and Nokia, and is the preferred and approved format of MPEG — the Moving Picture Experts Group — and has been since 1997. I'm not 100% sure that Apple didn't contribute at all, but it's a far stretch to link AAC directly to Apple.

Claim:

Zune doesn't play AAC

Wrong. The Zune already supports AAC, and there's no reason whatsoever to think it'll drop support — in fact, now that iTunes content can play on Zunes, Microsoft would be wise to use that in their marketing for the Zune.

Claim: Apple's just going from one proprietary format (Fairplay) to another (AAC)
Wrong. aside of already having pointed out that AAC is actually an open standard, iTunes' Fairplay tracks are actually AAC songs already, they are merely encased in the Fairplay DRM which gives them a different file extension (which really doesn't mean much anyway). Apple has used AAC for its online music for years, but people somehow forgot about that.

Claim:

all companies besides Apple and Sony can't offer to play AAC songs

Wrong. We may never know the real reason companies like Creative and iRiver don't currently support AAC, but unless their contracts with Microsoft on PlaysForSure prohibits them, there's nothing stopping them from offering AAC support — save for a one-time patent license fee to MPEG. However, a result of their lack of AAC-support has produced this public perception that AAC stands for something like "Apple Audio Coding", which is utterly incorrect. It stands for Advanced Audio Coding and is in no way attributed to or owned by Apple.

In fact, the closest involvement Apple may have to AAC is their close bond with MPEG as a body, thanks to Quicktime. MPEG opted to go with Quicktime for their newer standards' video container formats because, unlike all of Microsoft's randomly rehashing formats for audio and video, Quicktime has actually been a stable and backwards compatible technology going back to 1991 and enjoyed constant improvements for over a decade-and-a-half. Nowadays, AAC is an audio codec format that can reside in Quicktime's .MOV container format natively, but that's actually not that noteworthy because most everything can reside in .MOV containers.

Then, people have raised the question of why Apple isn't using OGG or MPC, reportedly superior codec formats to AAC.

For OGG: because MPEG is unlikely to ever make an open source format part of its official MPEG-standard as that would open up a true Pandora's box of legal issues across the entire multimedia industry. Plus, OGG is tainted by potentially looming patent troubles.

For MPC: the MPC format didn't even exist when MPEG adopted AAC as their new audio standards in 1997. What reason would Apple have to go for a slightly superior open source codec without any established value or business merit, compared to a well-established, MPEG-approved codec developed by various companies and which is owned by a standards body, rather than a few individuals?

When it comes down to it, AAC is by far the most logical choice for any online Music Store to deliver content in. It offers strong technical improvements over the much-older MP3 format (which, admittedly, has shown to be a very robust format nonetheles) and has the huge benefit of being royalty-free when it comes to content distribution. The fuss people are making over it is, in one word, silly. In a few more words, it's a misguided channeling of a bunch of wrong information that is lingering in the back of people's minds.

A shame, really, because what happened here today is that the music industry has seen a massive shift, the likes of which it hasn't seen since the launch of the iTunes Music Store in 2003. The silly AAC debate is distracting people from noticing that we've entered — toes first and with hesitation, admittedly — a new age wherein DRM on online music is no longer limited to the small independent labels. A message has been sent to music and movie studios worldwide, and the message is that consumers don't want DRM.

Come May, consumers will hopefully reinforce this message, solidifying it with undeniable evidence of the fact by buying some DRM-free content on the iTunes Store — even if only to make a statement.

I know I will.

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Faruk Ates

For disclosure: I'm no unbiased, impartial observer in this event. I own some Apple stock. That said, my opinion on the AAC matter is my own and not necessarily representative of that of my employers.

I just really wanted to clear up the AAC confusion I kept seeing all over the place…

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 8:53 PM EDT
Marilyn L

Thanks for this clarification, Faruk. I appreciate it. It clears up a few points I've misunderstood. I had no idea that AAC wasn't created by Apple, for example.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:03 PM EDT
Faruk Ates

It seems that Apple has become such a big market dominator that people invariably link the AAC format to them, in part this could be because people do (vaguely) know that iTunes songs have DRM on them and reasoned that AAC == iTunes DRM.

Little do these people know that AAC != iTunes DRM, really. I can't blame them though, because in the early iTunes Store years when I wasn't even a Mac user myself, I thought the same thing myself.

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:31 PM EDT
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Brian Ford

For what it's worth -- I'm not exactly sure how I missed the mark.

I was merely saying that most companies haven't bothered to build the ability to play unencumbered AAC files into their firmware, as a result of thinking it was a worthless codec that no one would ever need to use or support. At the time, they were certain that WMA and plays for sure were going to strangle the competition.

I now believe that they'll be upgrading their firmware to work with these unencumbered AAC files from the iTunes store, in an effort to tout "works with iTunes."

That's all I was saying with my comment.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
Faruk Ates

I'm teasing ya. You suggested the Zune would be the only player to not play AAC in the near future, where it actually already does and as one of the few non-iPod players at that, too.

:-)

C'mon man, be a good sport! ;-)

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:28 PM EDT
Brian Ford

Ahhhh! (I actually didn't know that, so -- you're right for calling me out.)

I thought you were saying I misspoke about the codec itself, so I was confused.

I'm having a hard time being a good sport, as I'm being butt-raped by indie-music fans in my other thread.

My ass hurts. :(

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
Faruk Ates

Hehe, yeah I just noticed that. Boy I don't envy you right now ;-)

The whole definition of "indie" is near-worthless these days. Kevin Smith is considered and described by all major media as an indie director. He's not been indie since his second film, because what it really means is that you don't use a label or studio at all.

A group indie label only really is indie for as long as all artists signed to it were part of the founding group; once you start signing new artists you're becoming "just" another label.

Or are these indie labels claiming that every new artist that joins them still pays for everything out of their own pocket? If so, why bother joining an indie label if they're not shelling out a dime for any aid?

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 9:39 PM EDT
Schwab

Indie to me (and many I know) means any label or studio that is not a part of the RIAA or MPAA or their foreign equivalents. Or being completely DIY.
It draws a pretty clean line between the majors and independents for most part. For example there is an indie music torrent site dedicated strictly to non-RIAA music.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 5:05 PM EDT
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Adam Kemp

I'm confused about why they would offer the higher-quality files without DRM and the lower-quality files with DRM (instead of the other way around). It seems like if anything is going to be protected it should be the ones people are more likely to want to share.

    Reply#4 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:02 PM EDT
    Brian Ford

    I don't get it either, but frankly -- I won't be buying the lower quality fare anymore so I don't really care.

    :)

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:06 PM EDT
    Adam Kemp

    Well I actually don't care that much about the higher quality, and at least for now I don't care enough about the DRM to justify paying more for it. I'll probably stick with the lower price.

      #4.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:20 PM EDT
      spiffie

      The bump is quality is a huge selling point for me. I stopped buying from iTunes after my second or third album, because...there's something just off for me when I listen to 128kbs AAC files. I've had most of my library ripped at 256 and 160 at different times (first one, then the other, as a way to get more on my nano), and 160 is about as low as I can go without the compression loss become annoying.

      • 2 votes
      #4.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:50 PM EDT
      Garak

      I'm confused about why they would offer the higher-quality files without DRM and the lower-quality files with DRM (instead of the other way around).

      I'd guess that EMI wants those extra 30 cents as an insurance policy (to subsidize up users who will swap the unprotected songs). Then they just threw in the extra bits to find some other way to explain the increase.

        #4.4 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 6:53 PM EDT
        shubopshadangalang

        It's for no other reason but that the contracts Apple signed with all the majors was to offer a certain product at $0.99 each. Now this creates a new product at $1.29, which doesn't include DRM and is twice the quality.

        Something not many people are talking about is the fact that the major labels have been pushing to increase the track price for quite some time now, and with Jobs' only very-recent push for dropping DRM, the labels are really benefiting more than the consumers in this case. Kudos to Steve for figuring out a way to give everybody what they want, to a degree, and still come out on top.

        If they would make including digital booklets with every album download a REQUIREMENT then I'd feel a lot more comfortable paying $13 for an album. Otherwise, I'll just keep buying CD's - and rip them into iTunes at whatever quality I choose.

        • 2 votes
        #4.5 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:11 PM EDT
        Daniel A. HalloDeleted
        Adam Kemp

        I hope you didn't mean "costs more" as in "costs more to make", because that's definitely bull@!$%#. ;)

        What I was saying, though, is that to me no DRM is not enough incentive to pay .30 more (that's about a 30% price increase).

        By the way, it's DRM, not DMR. ;)

          #4.7 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:42 PM EDT
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          Kyle Baxter

          Not to mention that AAC files can be converted to MP3 in iTunes. It is certainly not a proprietary format.

          Good article.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#5 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:26 PM EDT
          Adam Kemp

          The only way to convert a DRMed AAC file in iTunes to mp3 is to burn it to a CD and then rip it in mp3 format. That's not so much a conversion as it is a loophole. And being able to convert to/from it is not what makes it "proprietary" or not.

          • 1 vote
          #5.1 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 10:42 PM EDT
          Kyle Baxter

          I didn't say DRMed AAC file, Adam. I said "AAC files," meaning non-DRM files. They can be converted to MP3 simply by right clicking the file and selecting "Convert to MP3."

          As far as being proprietary, you are right, being able to convert between different formats does not make it non-proprietary. I was merely adding on to the excellent job Faruk did of pointing out that AAC is an open file format that only Apple can use or even that only Apple uses. His points along with the fact that you can convert AACs to MP3 format if your player does not support it really renders the criticism of AAC irrelevant.

          • 3 votes
          #5.2 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 11:04 PM EDT
          Kyle Baxter

          It should read "...pointing out that AAC is a standardized file format..."

          • 4 votes
          #5.3 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 11:07 PM EDT
          Adam Kemp

          Fair enough. I think most people who complain about not being able to convert are talking about DRM files, though.

          • 1 vote
          #5.4 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 11:12 PM EDT
          Kyle Baxter

          True, but I think the importance of this article is, in light of EMI moving toward DRM-free music on iTunes, that the DRM is becoming irrelevant.

          • 1 vote
          #5.5 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 11:22 PM EDT
          Adam Kemp

          It's a little early to say it's "irrelevant". This looks like an experiment. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they decide later that most customers are like me and just aren't willing to pay more for DRM-free music. I don't think that's necessarily a logical way to test if customers want DRM-free music, but it may be how they measure it. We might know in a year or two if DRM is really on the way out, but for now this is nothing more than a setback for the DRM proponents.

          • 1 vote
          #5.6 - Mon Apr 2, 2007 11:41 PM EDT
          Kyle Baxter

          Quote from a press conference with Steve Jobs today:

          Q: You mentioned that 2.5 of 5 million [songs in your iTunes] catalog will be DRM-free by the end of the year. That's presumably not just EMI Records by the end of the year.
          A: That's correct. That's our estimate. That's EMI content plus other content from other labels.

          ...

          Q: Steve, have you begun have talks with any of the other majors about doing this, and if not are you confident that they'll follow EMI's steps and drop DRM?
          A: Well, I can't speak for others but what I can say is that EMI is pioneering something that I think is going to become very popular. I think they deserve a lot of credit for that.

          Source

          Apple's iTunes holds more than 80% market share of legal music downloads online, so Apple signaling it intends to move toward DRM-free music is quite significant. This is a shot across the bow of labels that do not want to remove DRM.

          And I don't think I am reading into the above comments from Jobs too much -- his estimates of how many songs on iTunes will be DRM-free by the end of the year include media from other labels. Jobs would not publicly make these comments if, at a minimum, Apple was not in talks with other major labels to offer DRM-free music on iTunes.

          • 3 votes
          #5.7 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 12:05 AM EDT
          Adam Kemp

          Like I said, we'll see whether the majority of customers care. They will see two prices: .99 and 1.29. Do you really think that the average user even thinks about these issues? I don't. I could be wrong, but I'm just saying that taking this as a sign of the end of DRM is jumping the gun.

          • 1 vote
          #5.8 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 12:08 AM EDT
          Kyle Baxter

          Yeah, you're right. It certainly does not make the death of DRM inevitable. Even if it dies completely within the music community, it will continue living a happy and fulfilling life in the video community. ;-)

          These events do, though, foretell more and more choice regarding DRM, and I say, thank God.

          • 2 votes
          #5.9 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 1:19 AM EDT
          Adam Kemp

          It's a good sign, I'll give you that. I just think a healthy dose of skepticism (or call it cynicism) is a good idea in this case. :)

          • 1 vote
          #5.10 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 1:30 AM EDT
          Schwab

          NO TRANSCODING! Converting from one lossy format to another results in terrible quality files. It's be stupid to buy the higher quality 256k aac files only to ruin that quality by transcoding to, say for example 192k mp3...which would sound more like 128k mp3...which would sound worse than 128k aac drm files from the ITMS.

          • 2 votes
          #5.11 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 5:09 PM EDT
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          Adam Hobson

          Isn't the audio on DVDs also in AAC format? Or am I confusing that with something else.

          Anyway, good info!

          • 1 vote
          Reply#6 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 1:23 AM EDT
          Faruk Ates

          No, that's (as far as I know, still) AC3.

          Could be that more recent DVD's have adopted AAC audio, though, but I'm not sure.

          • 2 votes
          #6.1 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:01 AM EDT
          Faruk Ates

          According to this very extensive DVD FAQ, AAC is not offically supported by the DVD-Video standard.

          So, while some DVD's do use it, it's not recommended as no DVD player has any obligation to make sense of it.

          • 2 votes
          #6.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:24 AM EDT
          Adam Hobson

          Ah, AC3, so easy to get confused with AAC...

            #6.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 10:01 AM EDT
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            Paul William Tenny

            AAC is still encumbered by patents and restrictions, just like MP3 is, and needs to just go away. Legally free and clear formats are aplenty out there, and the only reason companies don't use them is precisely because they can't make money off of them.

            Vorbis development began following a September 1998 letter from Fraunhofer Gesellschaft announcing plans to charge licensing fees for the MP3 audio format.

            Just because you can use AAC without having MP3-style patent problems today doesn't mean those companies won't change their mind tomorrow if that particular format becomes ubiquitous. You still can't get binary support for the codec unless the author pays royalties.

            There are suitable replacements waiting in the wings for anyone that wants to use them.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 2:05 AM EDT
            Schwab

            Exactly. That is why I pointed to OGG and MPC as replacements to AAC in Brian's thread. The 'potentially looming legal problems' OGG could have could just as easily be applied to MP3 or AAC. The only real problems I see with OGG and MPC is being able to play them in audio programs or on portable audio devices. The same thing can be said about AAC though, since it isn't supported by a number of devices and media players right now.

            In the end, MP3 is still king even though it is SLIGHTLY technologically inferior to these other formats, mostly because of its near universal support. ACC would only be a half step forward in replacing MP3 as the dominant format; lets take the full step forward and go for an open source format that has even better compression efficiency than AAC: MPC. Just because it's not established right now is not a reason to dismiss it.

            • 1 vote
            #7.1 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 5:20 PM EDT
            Daniel A. HalloDeleted
            Adam Kemp

            AAC is not "open source", because it's not a piece of software. It's a format. It is an "open" standard, but it does have some restrictions (on codec developers). It's also not a lossless compression. And "copying" an mp3 doesn't lose quality. Re-encoding it does, which there's rarely a reason to do. Perhaps you're thinking of burning it a CD, then ripping it again. That loses quality. AAC does as well.

            You really need to do more research before posting. You got almost everything in that last post wrong.

            • 4 votes
            #7.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 7:46 PM EDT
            Schwab

            Yeah, sorry Daniel, you're wrong. And AAC isn't even truly open the way OGG and MPC are, and it definitely has restrictions (a patent license is required for all manufacturers or developers of AAC codecs). It uses proprietary technology owned by many companies.

            • 2 votes
            #7.4 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 8:48 PM EDT
            Reply
            Rob Goodlatte

            I've heard that AAC has greater sound fidelity at the same bitrate as MP3. I'm not sure if I heard that from a Steve Jobs speach or what. Is there any audible difference between AAC and MP3 at the same bitrate?

            Amen on spreading the word that AAC is a more open format than MP3.

              Reply#8 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 1:45 PM EDT
              Kyle Baxter

              Overall, the AAC format allows developers more flexibility to design codecs than MP3 does. This increased flexibility often leads to more concurrent encoding strategies and, as a result, to more efficient compression. However in terms of whether AAC is better than MP3, the advantages of AAC are not entirely conclusive, and the MP3 specification, while outdated, has proven surprisingly robust. AAC and HE-AAC are better than MP3 at low bitrates (typically less than 128 kbps). At medium to higher bitrates (typically in excess of 128 kbps stereo), the two formats are more comparable in most respects.

              Wikipedia source

              • 3 votes
              #8.1 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 2:03 PM EDT
              Rob Goodlatte

              Thanks for the link Kyle - interesting read.

                #8.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 2:07 PM EDT
                Reply
                MCLiepshutz

                HEH I remember playing AAC (advanced audio codec) files way back when K-Jofol was still in development

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 3:38 PM EDT
                Smaran

                Great article, Faruk. I dugg it.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#10 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:39 PM EDT
                Brian Ford

                Kick ass. As my article is mentioned in Faruk's article, I may get the sloppy seconds of his Digg traffic.

                :)

                • 3 votes
                #10.1 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 4:47 PM EDT
                Faruk Ates

                Thanks Smaran!

                Brian: What, you mean those 7-odd people that clicked through?

                Some sloppy seconds, man ;-)

                ('course, if the digg picks up traffic in the coming hours or so, I'm more than happy to spread the joy of people across other Newsvine pieces :-))

                Also, does this make me the unofficial Digg King of Newsvine? (;-)) One of my previous pieces got Dugg as well and that was the first time a Newsvine piece got Dugg, if I recall correctly.

                • 2 votes
                #10.2 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 8:02 PM EDT
                Brian Ford

                First? I think not!

                :P

                • 2 votes
                #10.3 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 8:43 PM EDT
                Smaran

                I think Digg is sabotaging all topusers' posts. Not 1 out of my last 20 or so has been promoted, and that's very unusual. Makes me like Newsvine that much more. Why, Rosy, why?

                • 2 votes
                #10.4 - Tue Apr 3, 2007 11:46 PM EDT
                Faruk Ates

                First? I think not!

                :P

                Damn, you're right and I apologize.

                Mine was merely the first to get a ton of diggs. ;-)

                • 2 votes
                #10.5 - Wed Apr 4, 2007 5:16 AM EDT
                Brian Ford

                But.

                Back to the whole being first thing.

                Hehe.

                • 2 votes
                #10.6 - Wed Apr 4, 2007 7:53 AM EDT
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                shubopshadangalang

                It's worth pointing out also, in case someone hasn't already, that even without DRM, the AAC format comes in multiple "flavors".

                Before owning an iPod, and having converted most of my music library to the iTunes AAC format (I should say "the format of AAC that iTunes utilizes), I found this little Philips CD player (Philips EXP401) that claims to play AAC files. I thought, great! I can play the files I've ripped from my CDs, burn little mini CDs with all the compressed files, and not shell out $$$ for an iPod. I was wrong. The player did, in fact, have the ability to play AAC files, but not the right kind... iTunes uses an MPEG-4 version of AAC, whereas the Philips player only played an older version (I think it was MPEG-1? not sure).

                All this to say, that just because a piece of software or a portable music player (such as the Zune?) can reportedly play AAC files, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean that it can play these new files that the iTunes Store will be selling.

                If anyone knows for sure that the Zune, etc, will be able to play these files, please share. I'd love to know for sure.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#12 - Wed Apr 4, 2007 12:27 PM EDT
                Smaran

                Check out Apple's AAC page and the Wikipedia entry for AAC. It appears that Apple uses an MPEG-4 AAC format. AAC was intended to be the successor to MPEG-1.

                • 1 vote
                #12.1 - Wed Apr 4, 2007 1:32 PM EDT
                shubopshadangalang

                Yes, that's true. The question I'm bringing up is whether other players, which claim to play "AAC" files actually support the same MPEG-4 AAC format.

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